Defensiveness

October 30, 2003 at 5:00 pm — Communicating, Relating, Resistance

Agile software development methods are relatively new. Many months ago, in response to hearing many people demand “proof” that Agile methods work, Scott Ambler explained why he thought that asking for proof was not likely to be fruitful, at least for now. Last week, Mr. Ed, a self-proclaimed skeptic of Agile methods, pointed out what he sees as many logical fallacies in Scott’s article, and offered his analysis as evidence that “the quality of discussion surrounding Agile methods is often low.”

Members on the Extreme Programming mailing list talked briefly about how or whether to respond to Mr. Ed’s article. Some of the members, convinced for a variety of reasons that Mr. Ed is not merely skeptical, but hostile, questioned the wisdom of bothering to reply.

Noticing that all of this discussion is public, and perhaps read by many people, I suggested that there may be value in replying. Even if the person you’re replying to is hostile and unlikely to be swayed, other people will read your reply. You can play to the audience. If you respond sincerely, respectfully, and non-defensively, you may attract some of the readers who are more open to your ideas.

A colleague wrote to me privately, saying that he understood why I’d recommend replying sincerely and respectfully. But why non-defensively?

I’ve learned that defensiveness serves me poorly.

I respond defensively only when I feel threatened. One way I respond defensively is to overstate my position. Now, as the words leave my mouth (or my fingertips), I know deep down that I’m overstating. And I know that if I were truly confident in my position I would feel no need to overstate it. So when I overstate, I reinforce my private doubts about my position while at the same time increasing my public commitment to it. Instead of reducing my sense of threat, I reinforce it.

It’s unlikely that my defensive responses will fool people into thinking that I am confident. Though the content of my response may express great confidence, the form of my response sends a different message. People are very good at picking up these mixed messages, and at knowing which message conveys the greater truth. As Jerry Weinberg says, “When the words and the music don’t match, trust the music.” So my defensive responses tell people that I want them to believe that I am more confident than I am. This message may be murky, but people get it. Instead of increasing my credibility, I undermine it.

Defending against a skeptic’s questions says that I feel not only threatened, but attacked. If the skeptic was intending to attack, my defensiveness validates the attack, in my audience’s mind and in my own. If the skeptic was not intending to attack, my defensiveness suggests (to my audience and to myself) that I feel threatened by sincere (if skeptical) questions. Either way, my defensiveness sends the message that my position cannot withstand skepticism.

Sometimes, as in this example from April, I defend my position by attacking. When I attack, I legitimize attack as a way of interacting.

Defending sends the message that I imagine ill intent, that I am unable to empathize with the positive intentions behind the person’s claims and questions. This makes it harder to find and create common ground.

When I focus on defending my position, I am less able to hear the other person’s position cleanly and fully. This builds a barrier that ensures that my needs and intentions can not be heard cleanly and fully. I am less able to learn from the interaction.

Defending my position often provokes the other person to attack or retreat. This makes it less likely that the other person will be able to hear my position.

And finally, defensiveness feels like crap. Most of the time I don’t notice when I’m feeling defensive. I recognize only later what I was feeling. Sometimes, as in the episode in April I recognize my defensiveness only when someone points out my strange behavior. When I’m able to notice my defensiveness in the moment, I’m usually able stop and find a way to respond sincerely, respectfully, and non-defensively.

Defensiveness doesn’t defend us well, and often increases the very “threat” that we are defending against. As Sharon Ellison writes in her book Don’t Be So Defensive! , “The irony is that in the name of self-protection we thwart not only the growth of our own self-esteem but also our actual competence. Instead of becoming connected through open interactions, we become isolated.” (See pp 12–14)

Experiment: What makes a response defensive, rather than merely a response?

Experiment: What factors trigger you to respond defensively when someone challenges or questions your ideas or positions? Something about the challenges or questions? Something about the idea or position? Something about your relationship to the idea or position? Something about your relationship with the person issuing the challenges or questions? What other factors?

Experiment: What happens when you respond defensively to challenges and questions?

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Comment by Sharon Ellison — November 29, 2003 at 1:48 am

Dear Dale:
I am the author of “Don’t be So Defensive” which is now out in paperback under I title I like much better, “Taking the War Out of Our Words.”
I like what you wrote about defensiveness. I also looked up the article in April, which was about asking questions that are disguised statements.
How did you learn about my work? I take it you have read my book. Are you located in the US?
Thanks for the reference and for spreading the word about PNDC (Powerful Non-Defensive communication.) I do truly believe that as long as defensiveness is our main “protective reaction” we will continue to polarize ourselves from others and create much needless conflict. Only when we learn to communicate non-defensively will we be able to find in-depth, real solutions to our personal, professional, and community conflicts.
Take care,Sharon

Comment by Dale Emery — December 5, 2003 at 4:51 am

Hi Sharon,

I learned about your work from your book Don’t be So Defensive, which I discovered at a book store several years ago. I haven’t yet read all of the book, though I’ve referred to it frequently whenever I’ve had a reason to think about defensiveness.

I like the new title, too — it tells me that the book covers a broader topic than I’d thought. And I can imagine someone seeing the title “Don’t be So Defensive” and saying, “Hey, who are you calling defensive!?” ;-)
I want to make sure that people can find your web site: http://www.pndc.com.

I’m in Sacramento, California, not far from you.

It’s nice to hear from you!

Comment by Jack Sargent — February 19, 2004 at 5:28 am

Dale,

So much of what you wrote about defensiveness reminds me of comments previous partners and counsellors have tried to tell me about my defensiveness problem. Another thing partners have said is that I respond to them as if they are another person, speaking to them as if they were much more aggressive and attacking than they actually were.

I realised through counselling that I was responding to programming throughout my childhood and adolescence. My parents, particularly my father, constantly attacked me for every mistake, and also ground into me the idea of always attacking others before any attack from them.

This is crazy because I realise now that most of the time no one else was ever going to attack me in the first place. I can see it’s almost a total fantasy to think this way and then behave according to that fantasy. The people on the receiving end are of course totally shocked at their unjust victimisation by me, and confused as to why I’m not responding to what they are really saying and the way they’re saying it. In the case of previous partners I reduced them to blithering wrecks because of this and I realise my behaviour constituted abuse.

Through the growth work I was doing, including the counselling, I also began to feel that I may have been attacked as a child in a much more specific way, in addition to the general brutalisation that was part of my upbringing. Had I been abused in some way and blocked it out?

I was then given a choice by my counsellor - either spend years in painful deprogramming and in trying to uncover hidden memories, or make a commitment to changing my ridiculous behaviour now. While I am doing more work on deciphering my childhood, I chose to make a commitment to immediate change and to give up the protective behaviour and the fantasy. My life was slipping away from me and I had started to lose everything that was dear to me because of this defensiveness. I realised it had permeated my behaviour in some way almost every day.

I have had to work extremely hard in disciplining myself when people speak to me and I feel attacked (which is most of the time). I have had to accept a number of things:

1. If people are annoyed with me and speak accordingly, sometimes I need to realise that often it is my behaviour that is so dysfunctional it warrants their anger. I have had to accept that I am not above questioning.

2. I have had to realise that I spent a lot of time questioning the behaviour of others and getting quite angry about their various shortcomings. I was a hypocrite because I certainly couldn’t take that same sort of intolerance and anger from others about my own behaviour.

3. I have had to realise that in most cases, people are very kind, and when they have a concern about me they are usually a lot more mild about saying something than my behaviour has warranted. In a lot of cases I have “got off lightly” over things I have done.

4. My own anger and defensiveness has scared people and meant that people often don’t confront me at all over problems I have caused. Or they treat me with kid gloves when they do. So in actual fact my perceptions have been even more distorted in being the one who always feels attacked.

5. I have insulted people by not reacting realistically to what they are actually saying and feeling. They have been getting responses that “don’t fit” to their intentions at all. I have been the cause of constant misunderstandings and communication breakdowns.

6. Sometimes I need to stop and think and ask myself questions about what is actually happening. In this case I have to be careful about speaking too quickly before I have “got real” about what is actually happening.

This is just the start, but the main thing for me when in a situation where I feel attacked is to focus on what the person is actually saying (don’t exaggerate or catastrophise) and the tone they are saying it in (they are usually being quite caring and constuctive in the way they speak to me, especially in the case of partners.)

I have also had to realise that others have the right to express their hurt or concern about things I have done or said, and in these situations I have had to really work at focussing on their feelings instead of my own. Being defensive leaves no room for compassion or remorse because it is so totally self absorbing.

When I initially made this commitment my relationship was crumbling and I was able to resurrect it by adopting some of the strategies and attitudes. My communications felt much better, I knew I certainly felt better, and so did my partner.

However I ended up relapsing which I eventually identified as being caused by resentment. Somehow I hadn’t truly accepted that her comments weren’t unfair attacks on me. I had also lapsed back into a lot of obsessive, addictive behaviour and not been mindful enough of staying de-stressed and doing my spiritual work. I found I would always be more defensive and speak too quickly, harshly and thoughtlessly when I had been slack about my lifestyle choices in this respect.

I also still hadn’t dropped my own protectiveness and arrogance and initially felt I was being weak by not attacking. This raised more issues for me about oppressing women and keeping them in the weaker position. But this was all so defeating. My relationship once again crumbled.

I am back on track now and after a lot more soul searching I have finally accepted my problems and dropped the need to be defensive. I had to accept it wasn’t getting me anything but misery. Now I do have my beloved partner back again and I know that in order not to lose her again for good I have to stay humble.

I am continuing to monitor my own negative reactions, reading, learning, being constantly aware. It seems like a lot of work but it is getting me and others around me a lot more happiness.

I’ve been able to provide some writings of this as part of a joint Mens Resources e-group I am a part of, where we provide e-resources and examples of our own growth experiences via email.

I’ll be reading the book you mentioned on your site. It sounds great.

Thanks Dale and keep up the good work. Your insights are spot-on!

Jack

Comment by Dale Emery — February 20, 2004 at 9:52 pm

Hi Jack,

Thank you for your kind words. It sounds as if you’re making great progress.

I know that major changes can be challenging, and setbacks like the ones you describe are only natural.

Check out my article “Managing Yourself Through Change” if you haven’t already. That article was a big help to me several years ago, as I worked through my response to being carjacked. For a while after the incident, I was intensely sensitive to certain kinds of dangers — the word my counsellor used was “hypervigilance.” I suspect that defensiveness is a form of hypervigilance.

Dale

Comment by Jeff Clarke — February 23, 2004 at 8:20 am

Dale

Have only just come into your site and read a couple of the articles. So far it is one of the best personal growth sites I have seen. Plain and simple but a lot of useful stuff. I’m going to work my way through it all.

A few comments to start with - I am only in the early days of my work but reading Jack’s comments above, a lot of things rang true. Scary actually and I’ll be re-reading this whole page again as I can relate to a lot of it.

Also Dale, your comments about “hypervigilance” really struck me. I’ve never before heard that word, but I think this could be me. Not only because of defensiveness, but I think I could be hypervigilant on most things. This could explain why I get so obsessive and somehow it’s linked with protectiveness of myself. It’s like I’m always ready for attack. Maybe this links in with some of what Jack said too. I can see now it can lead to a lot of negative behaviour whenever there is some sort of perceived problem.

Something I’d like to delve into a lot more, so if you have anything more on hypervigilance, please share it with us as well.

I’ll continue to engross myself in your pages and offer more feedback if it comes to mind.

Jeff

Comment by Questioning — June 30, 2004 at 1:57 am

What I don’t comprehend is why someone who defends seems to get a worse rap here than someone who attacks.

This honestly seems to me to be yet another case of blaming the victim — and a tactic used by people who want to be free to attack without others defending themselves.

i.e. The dynamic seems to me to be:

You’re not letting me attack you?

Well, sheesh, don’t be so defensive!

You’re defending yourself from my attack?

Gee, you must be really insecure — you’d better do something about that! Become more confident, and prove it, by taking a good ass whooping without defending yourself!

Is that what’s being preached here?

If it’s not — can someone clearly and comprehensively explain to me what is going on with this attack against defensiveness?

Thanks.

Comment by Dale Emery — July 7, 2004 at 10:11 am

Your comment makes it clear that I didn’t offer any alternatives to defensiveness in this article. If not defensiveness, then what? Taking an ass whooping? No, I don’t recommend that either.

In general, when my ideas or my values or my character are attacked, I hope to find a response that fully respects my needs, the other person’s needs, and the needs of the context in which we are interacting. “Taking a good ass whooping,” fails that test, because it doesn’t respect my needs (and very likely doesn’t really respect the other person’s needs). Attacking in response fails the test, because it doesn’t respect the other person’s needs (and very likely doesn’t really respect mine).

“Taking it,” attacking, and defensiveness all fail the test in one way or another. And if my response doesn’t at least respect all of those needs, then whatever resolution my response creates will be fleeting.

Respecting myself, the other person, and the context may mean disengaging and moving to a safe distance, either temporarily or permenently. It may mean trying to imagine the need behind the attacker’s behavior. It may mean some other kind of response.

If I can find some way to support my own needs, the other person’s needs, and the needs of the context, that’s what I’ll do. If I can support all of those needs, I’ve made things at least safer for myself, in a way that has a chance of being sustainable. I haven’t found that defensiveness serves any of those needs well, least of all my own.

Is that clearer, or does it still seem like blaming the victim?

Comment by Answerer — July 16, 2004 at 5:01 am

In relation to “Questioner” I think the problem is the perceptions of the defensive person in many cases. Most defensive people wrongly perceive they are being attacked when they are not. They are listening to old tapes and not responding to what is actually being said or the tone in which it is said. Thus they react defensively, often attacking someone who never attacked first at all.

Some of these very defensive people are also extremely averse to any type of criticism and believe they should never be questioned, even when their actions are inappropriate. Basically it’s, I can do whatever and no one is supposed to say anything. If they do, there will be hell to pay.

Ability to deal with conflict or difficulties is almost non-existent for a lot of these people and it is impossible to have a constructive conversation with them as they are so determined to shift blame and create confusion and conflict, all in the name of ensuring that nothing comes out that they did anything wrong or have any flaws whatsoever. It doesn’t seem to matter how tactful things are put, the reaction is always defensive.

Comment by Jack Sargent — July 16, 2004 at 5:24 am

That was exactly me in everything you said “Answerer”. I did all that. But I have learned my lesson, and paid a high price for it. I was just lucky I kept my partner.

I would launch into defensive rantings designed to muddy the waters and take the focus off any confronting issues about myself. I would twist things onto my partner and cause a scene or argument which would somehow end up in her having to defend herself from something I’d thrown in to make her look bad.

Initially I had to keep saying to myself “Don’t twist, don’t twist things around, stick to the point, answer what is being asked, don’t attack, don’t attack, respond to what is actually being asked or said.” I repeated these things over and over to myself, breathed slowly, and then centred myself before responding.

Now I just keep up the discipline of resisting the urge to attack, and the urge is a lot less now. Sometimes it can be quite painful to just sit quietly and listen to what is being said, especially if it means I have actually done something wrong, or God forbid, FAILED. I talk about it, I listen, I don’t get defensive, I learn, I listen, I even come up with insights into further aspects of what I may have done, I apologise, and yeah, I’m still here!!

I suppose I had to accept the fact that I do actually have a lot of faults and a lot of bad behaviours I needed to clean up. They had built up for so long it was a huge stockpile!

I still fail a lot in various things. But it’s not for want of trying and I don’t fail anymore in facing up to things. Not doing that got me so many dramas I was sending her and me to an early grave.

Jack

Comment by Jeff Clarke — July 20, 2004 at 5:38 am

Jack I can really relate to the whole failure thing having been brought up to fear it - it was literally bashed into me that I must not fail and if I did I would be bringing shame onto the family. I am the eldest so the onus was on me to make my parents look like good parents. I was their proof of being OK, their “great white hope” as my father would say. It didn’t seem to matter what my other siblings did, the family had me to make it alright. I was basically forced into playing a role to cover up for the fact that my entire family was screwed up. I now see it as a form of torture, it has practically ruined my life. I didn’t say much about this in my first letter because I didn’t have the guts to come clean like you did Jack, but there we have it.

Comment by Jack Sargent — August 2, 2004 at 1:17 am

Howdy

Just wanted to mention that I finally got around to reading Sharon’s book “Don’t be so Defensive”. I actually learnt a lot more even though I thought I had my problem totally beat (typically me jumping the gun! I recommend it as compulsory reading for anyone wanting to improve their relationship communication and themselves. Got it on Amazon.com, but it’s hard to get now, might be available by the other title as mentioned above.

Jack

Comment by Mary R — August 6, 2004 at 2:15 am

I just wanted to say that I’ve read Sharon’s book “Taking the War out of our Words” and I really got a lot out of it. Helped me in work situations, but the big plus was that my husband grabbed it and read it and he’s really made some changes that I couldn’t have imagined possible. It has changed our communications so much I’m just blown away! We both are. Also Dale, your article at the top of this page is just so full of truths. Again my husband has now read this and he’s amazed at how thinking about his own reactions, he can see what he’s been doing and why it hasn’t been working. This has given our relationship a new lease of life - we are on cloud nine because our communications have changed so much, it is so satisfying and stress-free we’ve become a lot closer.

Comment by Mallett — August 26, 2004 at 3:50 am

Yeah, I can relate to Jack and Jeff. One of the things I noticed I would do is that if I was confronted at work I would try to control my defensive reactions a bit more, but at home I’d just let loose! But even at work eventually some people started to notice there was a problem - it got harder and harder for me to handle any criticism and I started to run out of ways around it to keep myself looking good. I actually left one job partially because of this. I split from my wife because of it too, and then eventually found that it started happening with my new partner - I tried to keep a lid on it but over time it all started happening again. I’ve had to admit the problem is almost always me and in the end I just had to train myself to stop arguing with people and just listen. Most people don’t criticise me or try to bring up issues unless it’s really justified, it’s been too risky in the past so why would they? Maybe I should also read the book and get a few more pointers.

Comment by humbled — August 23, 2006 at 12:30 am

Thanks for this site & all the comments. It has been a big help. I have spent most of my life (56 years) limiting my time with people because I frequently perceive people’s comments as being “put downs”. Then I react by attacking them & feeling shame about my behavior or withdrawing so I don’t attack. Reading this site I understand that I am “listening to old tapes” & misinterpreting what others are saying.
Now comes the work of changing my behavior.

Comment by David — September 22, 2006 at 12:05 pm

I am just beginning to realize my problems with defensiveness. For months now I have been resentful towards my partner because she is always starting fights, at least that’s what i thought. In all actuality she was bringing up issues or concerns that she had with me and all i could do was perceive these as attacks against “perfect” me. The moment anything was said about a behavior or flaw of mine, I shut down completely and wanted nothing but to make her “see” my point of view. I realize now with our relationship at its breaking point that it has been me all along causing this conflict where there wasn’t any. Reading the other comments left on this site has helped me to realize that this is a problem that can be and needs to be addressed by myself. A concious awareness of my reactions and perceptions to her comments is where I want to begin. I have also realized that after all of this time the only thing I’ve accomplished in my attempt to keep my image squeaky clean is to alienate my partner and cause her to not want to address anything with me because of my reactions and defensiveness. I will check out this book “Taking the War out of our Words”

Comment by Bonnie — February 7, 2007 at 7:32 pm

My husband’s supervisor once called me at home to ask if there were any marital problems; that my husband had become the “most defensive person on the planet.” My husband also gets really defensive if he and I do a “post-mortem” on a disagreement. The behavior is unmistakable. He is sure that the fault in the disagreement is totally mine; he projects all kinds of motives onto me. It is true that I trigger defensiveness in him by sometimes speaking to him as if he were a child when he fails to comprehend something I consider basic. An example is when I make a comment and he says something in reply that (to me)indicates a lack of listening or a lazy mind. (Maybe it’s key that I think we both are getting mentally soft - we are 63.) Apparently my tone and other nonverbal language indicate that I consider myself superior. All of this may be true, but my behavior is certainly not calculated, and I am unaware of it at the time. His reaction is an angry outburst that blows my mind in its intensity. Then comes the post-mortem, which I over-and-again believe will change the transaction in the future. I tell him that he needs to tell me rationally that I am speaking to him as if he is an errant child. I am convinced that I would not be angry he told me evenly that my behavior is nonproductive and makes him feel One Down. The outcome of such an exchange is my being very tentative in communication. I recede into Pastimes and Rituals (to use Eric Berne’s terminology). Our intimacy and satisfaction in communication takes a big hit. Beyond the obvious, which is for me to be hypervigilant in self-monitoring toward positivism and compliance in every exchange (and I do have work to do there), do you have any suggestions? My husband refuses to read any commentary re: defensiveness, insisting that his supervisor and I are wrong. He is sure that he is not defensive. Should I give up on his gaining any insights into his own behavior?

Bonnie

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